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Extremely very cramped engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had actually already figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek message, that I really did not explain ... my bad In reply to spitfirebill: I added that factor since when I had to locate a replacement 4.9 for my F150, I needed to go through every one in every junkyard in South Jacket to discover one that had not been sludged up actually badly.
Bernie: Which is a much better van, while we're going to chat concerning a few problems of these vans, yet I I'm clearly not going to come out and claim one is better than the various other. Bernie: Well, they're basically the same vehicle.
They seem to be a little more utilized in that location, however, you understand, those are several of the usages, however they're essentially the exact same group of vehicle. Mark: So, well, allow's begin with engines then. What issues do you see in between these 2 automobiles? Bernie: Yeah. Allow's speak about engine and in fact just to specify that the version years, we're going to begin from 2000 and up, you understand, I mean, these vans have been around for a long time.
And, you understand, for a version of a Chevy van has actually been around considering that, you understand, around that time as well. So we're not going to obtain back into, right into the earlier things. Because 2000, I indicate, Ford's, you can get these with V6 engines or V8s. V8s are far more preferred and I would not truly recommend a V6 engine.
You understand, Fords, and most of them come with the Triton V8. There's a lot of issues with these engines. In the earlier 2000 ignition system with blow to these engines, because they didn't have adequate threading in the ignition system, which triggered problems. And usually that would certainly happen when you could be in a 15 guest bus going up a hill with a tons of individuals and all of an unexpected boom, a stimulate plug pops out and you're stranded.
So if you're purchasing anything from most likely 08 and more recent, you're not mosting likely to have that type of spark plug concerns. Various other areas though, with the Fords that we see, intake manifolds will certainly leakage, they'll develop coolant leaks. It's a plastic manifold typically you have to change the entire thing.
And there's some concerns, the Ford engine I have to say in their favour, because I'm discussing problems, it's a more sophisticated engine. Expenses camera, so you're obtaining even more power and performance out of the engine than you would certainly on a Chevy, which is a less complex layout with push rods.
They're just really rather excellent, sturdy, strong engines. You understand, being a van, naturally, you recognize, doing any type of solution on them is much more challenging since you've reached remove that cover and enter into maintenance in odd methods. However points like spark plugs last a dreadful long period of time, so they do not require to be changed really commonly.
Mark: Can you acquire these vans with diesel engines? The Fords have had diesels in them for a lengthy time, like method back before the 2000 version year.
You recognize, that's still readily available. If you're a say, I don't recognize, I'm simply going to claim a plumbing technician and you have actually obtained like a great deal of heavyweight inside your van and you're hauling a trailer behind it, that would certainly be a really great usage of having a diesel powered van.
In all fairness, it appears like the diesels are, they appear to have much less troubles in vans than they perform in the vehicles. Probably since they aren't worked so hard, yet when points occur, they're actually costly to fix. We have actually obtained a whole lot of videos and information regarding diesels, especially the Fords.
You actually require to assume twice about obtaining a diesel in a van. That's my referral. Mark: Yeah, so suitable for objective, ensure that you're suitable the engine that you're purchasing for the function that you're endeavouring to meet. Bernie: Yeah, specifically. And I will certainly state, Chevy is practically restricted to V8 engines, yet Ford has a V 10 engine too, which is an impressive gas consuming engine.
If you're, and once more, we're simply speaking about kind of a directly, regular freight van here. Look at your purpose, your use, exactly how much weight you're transporting and that'll aid you make the choice.
One thing that we haven't spoken about here is what kind of van. These vans are, and it depends upon what model, they're offered ever before from half load to one ton framework and in fact a few of the exploded view vans are actually even extra durable, like, you know, 450s and 550s for state the Fords.
Bernie: You know, I'm going to give the edge to Ford on this one. And the reason for Ford is that it's a little less complex.
There's much less steering linkage included in a Chevy. Do Chevy's, yet it appears, and the Chevy's possibly last a bit longer than the Fords, however the, you recognize, the steering affiliation is much less complex, so there's much less components and less items to wear out.
The trip in a Ford is possibly a little bit extra vehicle like but I do not recognize if you 'd in fact ever actually noticed a difference in between both. It looks like their components are a little harder on the Ford than the Chevy. Mark: What regarding brakes? Bernie: Brakes are quite much the same, but I will say that it appears like with Fords, the means they build their brake calipers, that they tend to need to be changed nearly each time you do a brake job.
For one reason or another, they seem to last for one brake task. And afterwards a great deal of times we take the brakes off and say, Oh, the dirt boots torn, and so the caliper needs to be replaced. I assume on a Ford and you can expect to spend a little bit more cash on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm mosting likely to digress back prior to the 2000 version years, there were some Chevy vans that had really poor doors. I imply, the moving doors were crap, you know, really severely constructed. As a matter of reality, I would certainly state that if you are also checking out something older, it looks like Chevy and GMC vans truly and their vehicles in basic truly took a leap onward in high quality around the 2000 design year, since there was a great deal of stuff where the brakes as an example would certainly not last extremely long in all.
Yet if we're checking out the 2000 newer, I imply, I 'd say they're both possibly basically matching in quality, fit and finish, you understand, a few of the guest vans, of course we'll have nicer visits than the freight vans. Yet I can not claim that of them stands apart to me a bit more than the other.
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